Nun But the Truth

Brian Balogh:
Now we’re going to take a look at what life is like within the confines of another very different institution. A Catholic convent.

Brian Balogh:
It was all part of a broader exploration of Catholicism in America. And in particular, how the experiences of Catholics have changed from the 18th to 19th centuries to today.

Brian Balogh:
Not being Catholic myself, I knew very little about the religious practices of nuns and even less about how they live on a day to day basis. So this turned out to be an absolutely fascinating clips at the way nuns combine their religion and their day-to-day lives almost seamlessly.

Brian Balogh:
So here’s my conversation from the show. Catholics in America. As it turns out, there’s a Trappist monastery down the road from our studios in Charlottesville, Virginia. It’s one of just 17 across the country. So I took a trip out there with our producer, Emily Gadeck.

Emily Gadek:
All right. Here we go.

Brian Balogh:
Our Lady of the Angels sits at the end of a dirt road. It’s on the edge of the forest and the Blue Ridge Mountains. The building, it’s nothing fancy. It looks like the kind of two-story brick church you might see in a new suburb.

Speaker 5:
Hello. May I help you?

Brian Balogh:
Hello.

Emily Gadek:
Hi.

Brian Balogh:
13 sisters live in the monastery. We spoke to four of them- Sister Barbara, who helped found the convent in the late 1980s, Sister Sophy who came from India, Sister Maria originally from Spain and Sister Kathy who joined the community after serving in the United States Air Force for 15 years.

Sister Kathy:
I’m entering my 15th year in the monastery. So I’ve now been in the monastery as long as I was on active duty.

Brian Balogh:
I know you don’t say mazel tov, but congratulations. Is that in order?

Sister Kathy:
Thank you. Yes, yes.

Brian Balogh:
It’s no surprise that the sisters’ lives were nothing like the horrors Rebecca Reed detailed in the 1830s. Much of their daily life in that monastery revolves around prayer. Sister Barbara told us that their day begins at 3:00 AM. That’s when the sisters rise for their first of many rounds of prayer throughout the day.

Brian Balogh:
But the nuns also work. For Our Lady of the Angels, that means making sinfully good Gouda cheese. People come from miles around to buy it. Here’s system Maria describing the process.

Sister Maria:
I’m what we call the cheese cook, the one who… That’s a part of the process of making the cheese, turning the milk into cheese. So besides put in the culture and all the things you have to put in there so that you get cheese at the end, most of the time we work in silence. So when we are working, we are praying with our whole body. I do put a lot of prayers for the people who are going to have the cheese, for so many people who ask us for prayers, who tell us about their troubles in their families.

Brian Balogh:
And just like any homeowners, Sister Kathy says they have to put a lot of work into simply maintaining the place.

Sister Kathy:
So a lot of my time during the day is either doing plumbing, calling a plumber. That’s where YouTube comes in handy because there isn’t anything you need to fix that you can’t find somebody doing it on YouTube.

Brian Balogh:
I have to admit. These nuns surprised me. They laughed at my jokes, unlike most people. They watched YouTube and they had strong opinions about current issues like climate change. Sisters Kathy and Maria say they even surprise themselves by entering the convent.

Sister Maria:
I never thought about becoming a nun. I didn’t like nuns too much.

Brian Balogh:
Why do you say that?

Sister Maria:
Well, we all have our own ideas of what people do. I mean, I wasn’t the kind of person I thought that was going to be a nun.

Sister Kathy:
I kind of had the same experience that Maria had. It was an oh, no kind of experience. I never thought of cloistered life as being for me. I’ve always been pretty active and enjoyed being in the world. But there were some clear messages that came. It just grew more and more in my heart that really the significance and importance of prayer in my life.

Brian Balogh:
I love writing history. But I will confess, if I could use that word, that there are days- and sometimes even months- where I have real doubts about my chosen life as an historian. None of you expressed any doubt about your faith itself. You’ve expressed doubt perhaps about being in the right place. Have you experienced those moments?

Sister Kathy:
Sure. I think that’s part of the Christian life. And a doubt is the flip side of faith as we eventually what makes our faith even stronger. I remember saying to our superior that I’ve finally reached a point where I was pretty certain that I was… What’s the word for people who don’t believe in God?

Emily Gadek:
Atheist.

Brian Balogh:
Agnostic or Atheist.

Sister Kathy:
Atheist. Okay. I can’t believe I can’t remember these words. But I told her, I said, “Well, I think I’m atheist. I don’t think I believe in God anymore.” And her simple response was, “Well, that’s nice.” It will pass. That’s fine. And she’s right. It does pass.

Brian Balogh:
Two of you mentioned that when you realized that you were being called, your response was uh-oh. And given that that’s a pretty typical reaction, or, to put it another way, that this is an unusual form of life in this very modern society we live in. Do you ever worry about the future? Do you worry about the continuation of this way of life?

Sister Kathy:
As far as worry, not worry. I think the monastic life will last as long as the humankind lives, because it speaks to something deep in the human heart. Maria was saying a few moments ago, this desire to give oneself totally to God and to receive as much of God as God will give in this life, to put it one way. But individual monasteries won’t last forever. No human institution does. And that doesn’t matter. So I’m concerned, but not worry. The best contribution we can make to that is just living the life as fully with as much of our love as we can.

Brian Balogh:
Thanks to Sisters Barbara, Sophy, Maria, and Kathy from Our Lady of the Angels, a Trappist monastery in Crozet, Virginia. You can find more information about the sisters, including how to purchase their cheese on their website. olamonastery.org.